Ray Sims made some comments on the Twitter post. This led to these two pictures which I am really not happy with. Can anyone come up with some better suggestions?
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I don't like the idea of me talking or us talking. It sounds like monologue vs dialogue or telling vs discussing. Also disagree that wiki is closed, intranet open - some of the best wikis I have been involved in have been closed communities. Also blogs can have multiple users but they are more publish-like rather than collaborative spaces like wiki. Suggestion is that does not fit in 2x2 (I hate them anyway). instead have converse (email), publish (intranet), discuss (forum), publish-discuss (blog), collaborate (wiki). They're might be a folded tetrahedral structure inside there ...
Hi Matt, Thanks for giving it a try. This is accurate and useful to tell part of the story, but as you suggest, seems to also miss something. That something missing for me is the "lightness / agility" of wiki...not in the firm 140 character limit as in Twitter, but in a more general sense of smaller, more easily editable, pieces. This use of lite is what originally got me thinking 'upper-right' for wiki in your earlier 2x2...although acknowledged that this dilutes the strength of the message about character length. Wish I had a better alternative to offer now and so perhaps I end up in same place as Luke...I'm trying to stretch the original 2x2 (that for me did give a nice aha moment) beyond what is achievable in 2x2. Ray
Luke - You may not like me-talking or us-talking but blogs are mostly more monologic than wikis. Open vs closed is very simplistic but does capture some of what I am trying to achieve - I'm keeping it. Have a look at the Peak Email presentation for more. I like the tetrahedron idea.
Ray - I think we need a different term to "lite" for wikis but I follow your reasoning.
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I don't like the idea of me talking or us talking. It sounds like monologue vs dialogue or telling vs discussing. Also disagree that wiki is closed, intranet open - some of the best wikis I have been involved in have been closed communities. Also blogs can have multiple users but they are more publish-like rather than collaborative spaces like wiki. Suggestion is that does not fit in 2x2 (I hate them anyway). instead have converse (email), publish (intranet), discuss (forum), publish-discuss (blog), collaborate (wiki). They're might be a folded tetrahedral structure inside there ...
Hi Matt,
Thanks for giving it a try. This is accurate and useful to tell part of the story, but as you suggest, seems to also miss something. That something missing for me is the "lightness / agility" of wiki...not in the firm 140 character limit as in Twitter, but in a more general sense of smaller, more easily editable, pieces. This use of lite is what originally got me thinking 'upper-right' for wiki in your earlier 2x2...although acknowledged that this dilutes the strength of the message about character length.
Wish I had a better alternative to offer now and so perhaps I end up in same place as Luke...I'm trying to stretch the original 2x2 (that for me did give a nice aha moment) beyond what is achievable in 2x2.
Ray
Luke - You may not like me-talking or us-talking but blogs are mostly more monologic than wikis. Open vs closed is very simplistic but does capture some of what I am trying to achieve - I'm keeping it. Have a look at the Peak Email presentation for more. I like the tetrahedron idea.
Ray - I think we need a different term to "lite" for wikis but I follow your reasoning.
Hey Matt!
I reckon I might be able to overlay a Johari window and... well - it could be interesting..
Let me work on it a wee bit!
ABB ;-)
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